Adam Jelic – How To Become A Goal Digger
- 22 December 2020
- Posted by: GIANNA LUCAS
- Category: Podcasts
Welcome to our final episode of Power Up Life Season 1… Don’t worry, we’ll be back in 2021! So get excited. Now, with the new year literally around the corner, we reckon this chat will help get you in the best mindset to kick-start 2021!
But before we introduce you to this week’s guest, we’d love to ask you a question…
Have you ever had a dream and hoped it would come true one day, but for whatever reason, it never actually became a reality? …Let’s be honest, facing this truth can be a super real challenge.
This week’s guest knows EXACTLY how this feels. His name is Adam Jelic. In high school, he saw himself becoming an internationally renowned soccer player. He loved soccer and was really good at it. But for a variety of reasons this dream never happened for him.
Despite this setback, he never stopped believing in himself. So one day, he eventually had the courage to step out of his comfort zone and try something new. And that ‘something’ is now an international stationery brand for ‘Goal Diggers’. Adam is the proud, yet incredibly humble Founder and Director behind Mi Goals, a Melbourne-based brand that’s helped hundreds of thousands of people around the world track and achieve their goals. How incredible is that!
Here’s just one of the many quotable moments in today’s ep: “Hope is not a strategy.” How true is that?! Having hope and faith is super important when working towards your goals, but Adam understands that your goals still need to be backed up by a solid plan with actionable and attainable steps.
As you can probably guess, Adam and Gianna chatted about a LOT of things including:
- What high school was like for him
- Why he wanted to become an athlete
- How he started Mi Goals
- Advice for young entrepreneurs
- How to set goals
- And loads more!
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Hey, hey, hey. Welcome to our final episode of Power Up Life, season one. Don’t you worry, we’ll be back in 2021, so get excited. Now, with the new year literally around the corner, I reckon this chat will help you get into the best mindset to kickstart 2021. But before I introduce you to this week’s guests, I’d love to ask you a question. Now, have you ever had a dream and hoped it would one day become a reality, but for whatever reason, it just doesn’t? Now, let’s be honest. Facing this truth can be a super real challenge. This week’s guest knows exactly how this feels. His name is Adam Jelic. In high school, he saw himself becoming an internationally renowned soccer player.
He loved soccer so much and was really, really good at it. But for a variety of reasons, this dream never happened for him. Now, despite this setback, he never stopped believing in himself. So, one day, he eventually had the courage to step out of his comfort zone and try something new. That something is now an international stationary brand for gold diggers. Adam is the proud yet incredibly humble founder and director behind MiGoals, a Melvin- based brand that has helped hundreds of thousands of people around the world track and achieve their goals. How incredible is that? Adam is an absolute legend. He is not only a Happow ambassador, but also one of my mentors. He is so wise and such a genuine soul.
Here is just one of the many quotable moments in today’s episode. He said this. ” Hope is not a strategy.” How true is that? Having hope and faith is super important when working towards your goals. But Adam understands that your goals still need to be back up by a solid plan with actionable and obtainable steps. As you can probably guess, Adam and I chatted about a lot of things, including what high school was like for him, why he wanted to become an athlete, how he started MiGoals, advice for young entrepreneurs, how to set goals, and loads more. So, let’s power up life. He’s on the line right now in his lounge room at home. In fact, his theater room, the lucky duckling. Adam, welcome to the show.
Adam Jelic: Thank you so much, Gianna. It’s a pleasure to be on. Lovely to chat. Can’t wait to get into it.
Gianna Lucas: So, I want to firstly ask you this question, my friend. You’ve created a global brand, MiGoals, M- I- G- O- A- L- S. Now, it is all about creating products that empower, that uplift people to be their best selves. Were you always someone who was motivated, even when you were a kid?
Adam Jelic: Looking back, I was. In hindsight, when I look back and I connect the dots, I was. I go back to when I was 16 and I was motivated to be a professional athlete. I remember at the same time, I started writing books, biographies around successful individuals. Whether it be through business, sports, just general individuals. I was always fascinated by what made them different, what made them stand out. There’s this ethos about working hard, having dreams, having a big vision. Looking back, I’ve always been motivated to do something bigger, even though I didn’t realize it at the time. But I was always looking for a way to escape the ordinary and do something extraordinary with my life.
Gianna Lucas: You said you wanted to do some kind of elite sport. What was it?
Adam Jelic: Soccer. Growing up, I loved soccer. My dream and my escape from reality, or my escape from the ordinary, was to become a professional soccer player. I got to a stage where I was okay, pretty good. I played in the national youth team in the old A league, which was the national league. I was in a club called the Millwood Knights, so I was in the youth squad trying to (inaudible) here and there. That was my dream. I put effort into it. Like I said, at about 16 years old, to sort of up the ante, I started setting goals based around my soccer career.
After high school, that was my thing. I was just like, “You know what?” I thought I was going to be a professional soccer player, and I put a lot of effort into it. That passion there was, this is going to be my life. Unfortunately, we fast forward to when I was 19, 20, and it sort of didn’t happen, which was a real shock to me. But I learned valuable lessons along the way.
Gianna Lucas: What happened to you when you were 19 then?
Adam Jelic: Well, the story is, looking back, I probably realized I just didn’t have the… To be a professional athlete, you sort of have to have that not only self belief, but you really have to have that extra oomph. I looking back probably look at it and go, I was missing that X factor. Good player, I listened well. But I just didn’t have the hardness in me, the character to really push through. That was probably my biggest lesson looking back. It was just like, why didn’t I succeed? I think it was more of a… I was definitely motivated, but it was just probably a self doubt. It was just that self belief that I sort of struggled with. You see athletes that may not be as good, but they’ve just got this belief in themselves. We look at even musicians, or actors, or whatever it may be. They may not be the most talented, but they’ve got belief. That self belief can take you a long, long way in anything you do. I think I lacked that a little bit when I was younger. I was always…
Gianna Lucas: Yeah.
Adam Jelic: That was one of the big things. I was good, but I wasn’t good enough mentally probably.
Gianna Lucas: Did you feel then subconsciously, looking back now, that may have been something deep down you didn’t want to do subconsciously? Because I think about Olympians, those that goes to the Olympics, win gold for Australia. In the case now, the Japan Olympics are being postponed to next year. I’m thinking, man, these athletes have been training thinking they’re going to Tokyo 2020. Now it’s Tokyo 2020/ 2021. It’s crazy. I mean, the name change is interesting, but I see they’re trying to be sustainable. Good on them.
Adam Jelic: Yeah.
Gianna Lucas: It’s like, man, you think you’re about to go in the next couple of months overseas to show what you’ve been working on. Then you have to wait another year. That takes a lot, a huge toll on the mind. There may be some athletes that decide to go, ” Nah, I’m not doing it anymore.” There will be some that say, ” Yes, I’m up to the challenge.” Did you find that you perhaps weren’t ready then, or it wasn’t the right goal for you to pursue in life as your ultimate goal?
Adam Jelic: Looking back, I think it was the right goal. I loved it. I was passionate about soccer. I would go home, and I would be at the park training, doing the extra bits. It’s something that stayed with me for… even since then, it’s something that I’ve had to overcome. Still to this day, that sense of imposter syndrome or whatever it may be, that self doubt, it’s still there within me. I look back, just being honest with myself, it’s always probably been there. It’s been something that I’ve had to overcome with the fear of even on social media, whatever it may be, putting myself out there. Really putting myself out there, for whatever reason, I’ve struggled with. I’m aware, fully aware of it in terms of… I think it was the right goal. I was thinking, you’ll do anything to be a professional athlete and play in front of tens of thousands of people. It’s any kid’s lifelong dream. But I think it was just me, that self doubt, that belief.
Gianna Lucas: Yeah.
Adam Jelic: That’s been a thing I really had to work on. Even in that introduction, you mentioned I’ve got a global brand. MiGoals is a global brand. I still look at it, and it’s a very humbling thing to think about. I still think there’s so far to go. I think there’s that thing in me that I’ve had to overcome.
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head because you’re right. I look on the outside and see the products you produce, the engagement you get online. You’ve got like over 50,000 I think followers just on Instagram. I look at all of that and I’m like, gee. You’re successful according to the books.
Adam Jelic: Yeah.
Gianna Lucas: You’re successful. Whereas you’ve been behind the scenes growing this brand. You’ve been growing it for a few years now, and you know what it’s taken you to get to this point. And obviously based on your own goals, or MiGoals, that you want to pursue. You know where you want to go. You’re probably thinking, I’m not there yet. I’m not there yet.
Adam Jelic: 100%.
Gianna Lucas: Is that where you think humility comes into it?
Adam Jelic: Yeah, 100%. It’s always a thought, I’m not there yet. There’s still a lot more to do. Also just from experience and the person that I want to be, what I value. I mean, I want to be that person that is humble. I look up to people, someone like The Rock, a successful family man.
Gianna Lucas: He’s awesome.
Adam Jelic: Exactly. He’s got that thing. He’s someone that inspires me. David Beckham as well. He seems like a family man, he’s very successful, but he’s also very nice to people. Those are the kind of people… He’s not cocky, doesn’t come across cocky. That’s who I look up to, and I’ve probably always looked up to individuals like that. That’s why that humility and that humbleness is there. Which is good, but then also can be… have a negative effect in terms of that self belief. I think you have to find that balance between saying, ” I am good enough, and I’m proud, I’m confident.” As opposed to always saying… putting yourself down. That’s something I’ve had to work on.
Gianna Lucas: In the early days, when you were growing MiGoals, you obviously at the time were an unknown entity. No one knew Adam Jelic. No one knew what MiGoals was.
Adam Jelic: Yeah.
Gianna Lucas: How did you get cut through? Obviously you had to have some kind of self beliefs in knowing that you were going somewhere great. But how did you go about in the early days creating this brand and getting it out there?
Adam Jelic: In the early days, it was always about creating this brand because I couldn’t find something in the market. It was a problem solution. That was the whole approach. It was honest. I was creating something for myself. The honesty was like, you know what? I’m going to create something for myself and see what happens. From the onset it was just like, I’m not creating this to make money. I’m not creating this to create a global brand. I’m creating this to help myself.
Then once it starts building, the journey of belief is about taking more action. Building up some momentum, and then all of a sudden you start to believe in yourself. Even going back before that, probably one of the biggest thing that held me back is people around you in terms of… not in a bad way. But in the fact of, everyone around me growing up, parents, family, friends, it’s very safe. It’s always been very safe. Once you’ve grown up, once that’s ingrained in you that it’s not possible to be something special or to do something big, that’s hard to sort of take out. For me, it’s like parents, safety. Go to school, good job, work your way up essentially. Friends, not many people dreaming that they can impact the world.
When you go against the grain, it takes you a long time to sort of build that self belief. I can assure you it would’ve been slightly different if there was people say starting a business, and they’ve had huge success. They become your mentors and they tell you it’s possible. Then all of a sudden you’re like, ” You know what? I can.” I see with the younger generation now, they’ve got friends and peers, or people in their social networks that are doing such amazing things at such a young age with technology. It’s opened up borders, it’s opened up opportunities. That belief, all of a sudden, they’re starting from a level of belief which is huge. Whereas for me, it was like no one has ever done anything like this. No one has ever spoke about goals when I started. In my peer network-
Gianna Lucas: What year did you start?
Adam Jelic: I started in 2010.
Gianna Lucas: Right. So, really, around 2010 was Facebook.
Adam Jelic: Yeah.
Gianna Lucas: There was no Snapchat, no TikTok, no Instagram, none of that.
Adam Jelic: No. And main technology, to be honest with you, I’m not a big tech savvy person. I just don’t like tech. I’m always last to come onto anything. Even Facebook, I don’t even have a real name there. Instagram, my profile, I don’t post much at all. That’s been another thing I-
Gianna Lucas: MiGoals you do.
Adam Jelic: MiGoals, yeah.
Gianna Lucas: MiGoals you do, but you’re talking your personal one.
Adam Jelic: Personal, yeah. But even MiGoals is something, again, it’s always been a challenge. It’s something that I’ve had to overcome. I don’t know why. I think it’s just always been a sense of, I don’t really want anyone to know what I’m doing. My personal life is my personal life. But I’ve realized at the same time that you need to put it out there. It’s just a necessity these days. I think that was a big thing. I’ve learned the more things that we do, that momentum builds and that belief builds. For anyone that doesn’t have belief or struggles with it, one of my tips for them is always to do more. Get out there, get more results. Sometimes you’re going to get no’s and you’re going to get rejected. Keep going.
Gianna Lucas: That’s the biggest thing though. Sorry to interrupt there, but there’s two things that I think about even in my own life. I at times was scared of failure. I’ve also been scared of success, wondering what people will say about me if I do really well at something. Both of those can stop people from moving forward. Would you agree?
Adam Jelic: Definitely. When you mention in that way, that’s exactly what’s held me back in many ways. Fear of failure, number one, in terms of letting down the people around me. Fear of success, what does that look like? How does that change? Am I ready for it? Am I worthy of it? That worthiness I think is what holds people back a lot. Am I really worthy of this? I’m just a person that’s got an idea. What makes me special? Then you sort of start to doubt yourself. Even talking to people about goals now, I’ve started this business based on my own personal experiences. Am I worthy enough to talk to people about this? But I’ve realized every time I am. That’s that inner chat that you have to have with yourself to sort of keep building.
Gianna Lucas: That’s one of your tips. What’s another tip you have?
Adam Jelic: To build belief, or to-
Gianna Lucas: To build belief, yeah. Because I think about say a young person who is starting out like yourself. Maybe they’ve got a supportive family around them, maybe they don’t. Maybe they’ve got parents that don’t really equip that young person with positivity and with encouragement to say, ” You can do anything.” They might be keeping their distance. They might be parents sort of like yours that work really hard, just get a good job. Work really hard and earn an income that way. Whereas you did something outside of the normal mold. By the way, there are your kids in the background.
Adam Jelic: Kids in the background. This is isolation, so this is homeschooling.
Gianna Lucas: Homeschooling. I love it, I love it. It makes it really real.
Adam Jelic: They’re getting detention up there, so when they scream, that means they have detention.
Gianna Lucas: Love it, love it. With parents that are more disengaged, how can a young person… You said before, ” You’ve got to get yourself out there. You’ve just got to keep going.” Well, where should they start? I’m talking, Adam, ground zero. Where do they start from? Maybe they don’t even really have any contacts at all. What would you recommend they do to start reaching out if they’ve got this goal or dream in mind? Whether it be sport, entrepreneurship, whatever?
Adam Jelic: One of the biggest lessons for me was when I started MiGoals. It was the fact when you have something tangible to show. In the beginning, it’s just an idea. Everyone has got some ideas. Everyone can come up with some million dollar ideas. But it’s the people that can actually go and then start the process, do something about it. Make a website, create a product, whatever the case may be. The turning point was when I created the first sample. When I put it together, my friend put it together, and printing off that first sample. And going to a book shop and showing them that sample. That was the first time it was like, this is now real. As opposed to if you just tell someone your idea, they’re going to say, ” Okay, great idea. Once you show me, then I’ll start believing.” For anyone that’s got an idea, start somewhere. If you’ve got an idea for a business, register the business name. Have a business plan. You know what I mean? Shown people that you’re actually serious about it as opposed to just talking about it.
Gianna Lucas: All talk, no action.
Adam Jelic: Yeah.
Gianna Lucas: It’s not going to get you anywhere.
Adam Jelic: No, and that’s the thing. Again, be prepared to be uncomfortable. If you want to make progress, and you know what you do on a day to day basis. We’ve all got our comfort zones. To get ahead in anything that you do, you have to get out of your comfort zone. There’s no other way. You just have to be prepare to work harder, get more rejections, do more, and then it actually opens up the opportunities. You prove your odds of success. Network, go meet new people that you might not have.
I can look back on my own goals and my own career and say, ” Okay, my goals probably could have been a lot bigger right now.” But I take responsibility on a lot of those things, in terms of hey, maybe I was fearful of going out there and meeting new people. You know what I mean? I can look back and go, ” Okay, there are certain things that I may have missed over the next few years that would have helped me get to that next level.” There’s no going around it. Reach out to more people. Find better people, whatever it may be. But it involves work and going out of your comfort zone to sort of get to that next level.
Gianna Lucas: I completely agree with what you said. I also believe though everything happens for a reason. I hear you speak and you’re like, ” I recognize…” You’re saying, ” I recognize what I did wrong or what I could have done better.” Hindsight is a great thing because you can now see, oh, this is what I need to do next time to make that better. But I also believe that even in the less fun times in our life, the times that we probably despise or hate or get really frustrated about, there’s always that lesson to be learned.
I reckon once you’re out of the gutter, once you’re out of that stage of your life, and you’re in a new chapter and you look back… I know in my own life when I’ve gone through stuff, good and bad, I’m actually grateful that that happened because it’s led me to where I am today. If that didn’t happen back then, I wouldn’t have learned that. I wouldn’t have grown in that way and learned, boosted my personal development, to get me to where I am now. I would also encourage you that even though you said before, ” We could have been in a different place than where we are today,” I also acknowledge how far you’ve come. I also know your brand is going to continue to grow. I’m sure the lessons you’ve learned in the past are going to hold you in good stead moving forward.
Adam Jelic: I don’t look at it as a bad thing in terms of acknowledging it. It’s just being honest with myself and going, ” If it is to be, it’s up to us. It’s up to me.” Whatever it may be. It’s just taking it onboard and going, ” I’m not going to make excuses. You know what? I could’ve done a little bit extra here. I could’ve pushed a little bit extra there.”
Gianna Lucas: Most people will disregard it or not take responsibility.
Adam Jelic: Yeah, they’ll just-
Gianna Lucas: Which is another credit to character that you’ve been able to do that, and admit to that publicly on a podcast, which is really good.
Adam Jelic: Most people would make an excuse and go, ” No, it wasn’t fear.” There’s a lot of things that aren’t fear, but at the end of the day, it falls to you and the people around you. We know what we should be doing, but a lot of us don’t end up doing it. That’s the biggest struggle.
Gianna Lucas: So true.
Adam Jelic: That’s the biggest struggle. If we can just get better at turning those shoulds into musts and actually doing them, then we’ll start to say, ” You should be making this many sales calls per day.” But you don’t. It’s once you start making those ones and doing the shoulds, or turning them into musts, that’s when things start to change.
Gianna Lucas: How big is routine to you? Because I’m thinking that’s the next step to what you’ve said. Once you turn a should into a must, isn’t your routine sort of the next step?
Adam Jelic: Yeah, 100%. Routine is immensely important, immensely. Especially, I will mention it, in the times that we are going through now. Routine is number one. Getting good habits, developing good habits. I work backwards in terms of having that longterm vision, but that short term focus. You’ve got to have that vision. A compelling vision, it’s something that excites you, but you can’t stay in that future self. You have to come back to today and go, ” What do I need to do today to get to that?” That’s the way I work. Whereas a lot of people just… They might have that short term focus where they just get through their list and they’ll nail their daily routine. But they don’t have these compelling visions they’re going for, so they get stuck.
It’s like, “What am I doing? What am I doing? I don’t see where I’m heading.” I think if you can marry the two together, have that big compelling vision and do something every day to get you closer, one step closer, then you’re on the right track. Then you’re at least giving yourself the best opportunity to succeed. I always say, ” There’s no guarantees.” There’s no guarantees, and it’s always about odds. For me, it’s like looking at… If you look at someone that doesn’t have a vision, someone that doesn’t set goals, someone that doesn’t have a routine, compared to the person that does. I’ll put my money on the fact that the person that does have those simple things ingrained will have a better chance of making a success of themselves and whatever they want to be. I look at it that way, getting out there and giving it a crack.
That’s always been the case when you look back, when we’re sitting back and going, ” Did I give myself the best opportunity to give myself the things that I wanted to do?” If you can tick that off and say ” Yes,” then that’s all we can ask for. If you become really successful and you get a lot of rewards and accolation out of it, bonus. But we can’t be guaranteed that. It’s going out there and doing the things that matter to you most. For me, that’s starting point one. Being passionate about what you’re doing and giving it a crack. Then putting in the effort. If it doesn’t work out, I always look back and go, ” If MiGoals was to end tomorrow, I would still be proud to tell my kids, ‘Look what we accomplished,’ or ‘Look what MiGoals accomplished.'” Do you know what I mean?
Gianna Lucas: That’s beautiful.
Adam Jelic: Book stores, and even though you can say, ” Oh, it could have been bigger.” Yes, it could have been, but-
Gianna Lucas: But anyone could be bigger. I just want to say that too.
Adam Jelic: Exactly. It never ends.
Gianna Lucas: Yeah. I can think of someone like Oprah, Tony Robbins. You mentioned The Rock. All these people, they probably… If I asked them, ” Do you think you’ve achieved everything you want to achieve in life?”
Adam Jelic: No.
Gianna Lucas: I reckon they’d all say, “No.”
Adam Jelic: Yeah.
Gianna Lucas: But we see them as being these amazing, successful people. But they’ve still got goals. Goals don’t stop.
Adam Jelic: Exactly, but being able to sort of pause and go, ” I’m grateful for what’s happened,” that’s important as well. Being able to say, ” Yeah, I’ve actually done something pretty good.” And acknowledge those wins, and acknowledge that progress.
Gianna Lucas: So important to do, it is. It helps you to acknowledge how far you’ve come, because often we’re only looking to the future. We don’t actually look at the road that we’ve actually taken.
Adam Jelic: 100%. We’re always looking forward, and we don’t stop enough to sort of reflect and go, ” You know what?” Because we get caught up. You know what I mean? It’s like Keeping Up with the Joneses or keeping up with whoever it is.
Gianna Lucas: Yes.
Adam Jelic: It’s a natural thing where we-
Gianna Lucas: The next person on TikTok.
Adam Jelic: Yeah. We’re competitive. The nature of human beings is competitive. It’s not a bad thing, but it’s being able to sort of realize or understand, what is your definition of success? And being able to develop your own set of rules that matter to you, that bring you fulfillment and joy. That’s been a list for me, because it’s always… in business, it’s always about comparing yourself. Usually what we compare ourselves with is profits or revenue. That company has done that much, or they’re better. But then it’s being able to step back and go, ” You know what? What is my definition? What am I here to do? Am I making an impact? Great, I’m here to make impact. I’m here to have more choices. I’m here to support my family.” It’s being able to step back and understand, what are the compelling reasons that you’re doing it for?
That’s been important for me because it’s like, maybe I don’t need to be at $100, $200, $ 300 million. Whatever that big number that people… a unicorn, or whatever people are chasing. It’s not that important in hindsight. It’s always nice to dream of becoming the next Facebook or whatever it may be, but that’s not really my definition of what success is. Honing in on that consistently is important.
Gianna Lucas: It really comes down to what Simon Sinek says in his book Start with Why. What is your why? Why are you doing what you’re doing? You’ve certainly got a clear why. You’ve spoken so well in this interview. I’ve absolutely loved this chat. What’s next for MiGoals? What are you hoping to achieve? Now that we’re talking about goals, what are they?
Adam Jelic: In the grand scheme of things?
Gianna Lucas: Yeah.
Adam Jelic: It’s continuing expanding globally, but also implementing those ideas that we have. That’s the way I sort of measure my success in terms of, if I can put those ideas that I have on paper, that I have in my head. If I can put them out into the market or put them out into the world, that’s the next big thing for me. There’s plenty of them, and it’s just being able to turn them into reality again. That’s the thing, right? Sometimes you get complacent. Not complacent, but you’ve got your product range and you just sort of stick to that when there’s a bigger picture out there. To me, the ultimate success would be if I could look back and go, ” That whole picture that I had in my head, we ticked off every single one of those things. Some worked, some didn’t, but that’s what I had. That was the big vision, and we gave it a crack.”
Whereas right now, it’s 10% or 20% of it, if that. I always say, ” You’ve got to have aces up your sleeve.” If you can have an ace up your sleeve, that’s a good thing. You know what I mean? If you run out of aces and you run out of ideas, then it’s… You’ve always got to have that in the back. It’s not even in the back, it’s just knowing that you’ve got more up your sleeve.
Gianna Lucas: Yes.
Adam Jelic: That’s the way MiGoals is right now. There’s a lot more to do, so that excites me.
Gianna Lucas: And that should excite you. It excites me, and I absolutely loved over the last couple of years, or the two or three years I’ve known you. Maybe even more now.
Adam Jelic: Yeah.
Gianna Lucas: Seeing you grow. I was actually looking at… Back in the day, I had my own podcast called Promenade with Me, which I finished up in 2018. I saw that I interviewed you in November 2017. I’m like, ” Really? Was it that long ago?” Time flies.
Adam Jelic: It goes quickly. It does, doesn’t it?
Gianna Lucas: It does, it so does. I’m going to let you go for two seconds. Then you’re going to come back, and I’m going to ask you something about what you are most grateful for. Of course, don’t go anywhere guys, because I’ve also got the challenge.
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Gianna Lucas: So, Adam, I am big on gratitude. Like I ask every interviewee that comes on the Power Up Life show, what is one big thing that you are grateful for and what is one small thing that you are grateful for?
Adam Jelic: That’s a great question. I mean, probably the big thing, I can’t go past my kids, my two girls. Lauren and Yasmin, eight years old, five years old. Super grateful for them. They’re the ones, when times are tough, you look at them. Even though they can be naughty, destructive, they’re the things that I’m the most grateful for. My two girls. And the small thing, I can’t go past coffee. I cannot go past coffee.
Gianna Lucas: We can’t go past it. It might be a big thing.
Adam Jelic: I look at the thing, it’s a small thing, right? It’s a small pleasure. It’s straightforward and all this, but that’s the thing that I’m super… without coffee…
Gianna Lucas: What would you do?
Adam Jelic: I don’t know what I would do, actually.
Gianna Lucas: There would be no MiGoals.
Adam Jelic: I would struggle. It’s just holding it, the smell of it. Just a latte, a normal latte.
Gianna Lucas: Just a standard latte.
Adam Jelic: A standard latte.
Gianna Lucas: Are you an almond milk, soy, coconut, dairy?
Adam Jelic: My wife is almond. I sometimes sort of mix between. I might have a sip of hers.
Gianna Lucas: Just a sip.
Adam Jelic: Just the standard. You got the two lattes, they’re takeaways. I’ll sip between the two and she goes, ” Why is mine sort of empty?” I’m like, ” I don’t know, that’s just the way they filled it out. They didn’t fill it up to the top.”
Gianna Lucas: They’re a bit stingy on the almond milk.
Adam Jelic: Yeah.
Gianna Lucas: It’s a bit more expensive than the dairy.
Adam Jelic: Yeah. I go, ” Next time I go in there, I’ll tell them. I’ll tell them that you want it.”
Gianna Lucas: I’m big on almond milk. I actually haven’t had dairy milk in probably around three years, maybe four.
Adam Jelic: Wow.
Gianna Lucas: Yeah.
Adam Jelic: Almond is nice. That nutty flavor, I don’t mind it. (crosstalk)
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, you’re a true European, Mediterranean.
Adam Jelic: Yeah, Mediterranean. I’ve never done the espressos, but I always have to have that milk. But I cut back on sugar, which is a good thing. I used to do two sugars. Now I don’t do any sugars, which is great.
Gianna Lucas: Excellent. Very good for your health.
Adam Jelic: I’ve made progress. Agreed.
Gianna Lucas: Now, how can people get in touch with you? If they want to check out what MiGoals is all about, your products, if they want to learn more about your story, how can they get in touch?
Adam Jelic: So, first place, website. Www. MiGoals, M- I- G- O- A-L-S. com. Or on the socials, on Instagram at MiGoals. If you want to look me up more, LinkedIn. LinkedIn at Adam Jelic, J- E- L- I-C. That’s probably the best place to find out more information about me personally. Yeah, that’s about it.
Gianna Lucas: Awesome.
Adam Jelic: Check out the website.
Gianna Lucas: Well, thank you so much for coming on the show, Adam. Up next is my favorite part of every interview, the challenge. I can’t wait to tell you what I’ve got up for you.
Adam Jelic: Awesome. I’m looking forward to it… not.
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Adam Jelic: I’m feeling good. I’m a little bit nervous because I don’t know what you’re going to be coming up with. I’m actually a little bit nervous.
Gianna Lucas: Well, Adam, I’ve got my hubby here next to me, who is the co- founder and CMO, which is chief marketing officer, at Happow. Hello, Brendan. Do you want to come up to the mic?
Brendan: Hello Adam, again.
Adam Jelic: Brendan, nice to speak again.
Gianna Lucas: It’s nice to speak to you guys. I’m so excited to have you here. Now, the game that we’re going to be playing today is never have I ever. All right.
Adam Jelic: Okay.
Gianna Lucas: Now, this game is played everywhere. It’s a big one, but we’re going to Happow- ify it. We’re going to Power Up Life it. We’re going to make it our own. How this game works in this particular challenge is a little bit different. Basically, the name of the game is to get the least amount of points as possible at the end. You don’t want to get a lot of points. You want to score the least amount of points. Basically, for example, this is not one of the questions, but say never have I ever gone skydiving. Now, if you and I say none of us have ever gone skydiving, then…
Adam Jelic: We’d get a point.
Gianna Lucas: We wouldn’t get a point, no.
Adam Jelic: We wouldn’t get one.
Gianna Lucas: We don’t want to get a point.
Adam Jelic: We don’t want to get points, oh.
Gianna Lucas: So, if we haven’t, and it’s an honest answer and we haven’t, then we’re good.
Adam Jelic: Okay.
Gianna Lucas: Whereas if you did go skydiving, you get a point. Then you’re not going to probably win the game. Does that make sense?
Adam Jelic: Okay, that makes sense. Let’s roll with it. Let’s just see what happens.
Gianna Lucas: Okay, all right. I’ve got Brendan here, he’s going to come up to the mic and he’s going to tell us all the questions. Now, there’s 15 questions.
Adam Jelic: Whoa.
Gianna Lucas: There’s 15. Now, if there’s something really interesting you want to say as to the reason why you have or haven’t done something before, please do tell, because we love a good fun fact all right, Adam?
Adam Jelic: Okay.
Gianna Lucas: All right, question number one.
Adam Jelic: No cheating.
Gianna Lucas: No, no cheating. Just be honest. That’s what we’re all about in Happow. All right, go.
Brendan: Never have I ever gotten stitches.
Adam Jelic: Yes, I have got stitches.
Gianna Lucas: I have also had stitches. Why did you get stitches?
Adam Jelic: The earliest memory I remember is, me and my brother were going on skateboards. Literally, I bumped in… no, no. The earliest memory was on those toy machines. You know those little toy machines, back and forth?
Gianna Lucas: The ones at the shopping centers?
Adam Jelic: Yeah, where you put 20 cents in. Then I got pushed off. I was maybe two. Then I hit my head on the corner of the… where you put the coin, yeah. Stitches.
Gianna Lucas: Do you know where I got stitches? My first memory, when I was at home at my mom’s place. A little kid, about three years old. I fell over, cut my lip on the corner of a table. Split my lip completely open.
Adam Jelic: Wow.
Gianna Lucas: I had to get it stitched up so that I was able to have my mouth back to normal. Luckily, I had a really good surgeon. Yeah, that was my first stitches experience.
Adam Jelic: That seems to be the age, right? Two to four.
Gianna Lucas: Yeah.
Adam Jelic: That’s when the first stitch experience happens.
Gianna Lucas: All right, number two. Go, Brendan.
Brendan: Never have I ever gotten a tattoo.
Gianna Lucas: No, I don’t have a tattoo.
Adam Jelic: Never.
Gianna Lucas: No.
Adam Jelic: Don’t have a tattoo, no.
Gianna Lucas: Okay, so that’s one point for each of us. Okay, we’re even.
Adam Jelic: Woo! Yeah.
Gianna Lucas: Number three.
Brendan: Never have I ever performed on stage.
Gianna Lucas: I have.
Adam Jelic: I have as well.
Gianna Lucas: All right, so there you go. Number four.
Brendan: Never have I ever gone vegan.
Gianna Lucas: I’ve gone vegan.
Adam Jelic: Never, no.
Gianna Lucas: He hasn’t gone vegan. I have gone vegan. Brendan and I went vegan a few months ago, yes we did, for about three months.
Adam Jelic: For how long?
Gianna Lucas: Three months.
Adam Jelic: For free months, yeah, that’s decent. I’ve gone vegan. I’ve had a vegan meal once in a blue moon.
Gianna Lucas: Okay, so do you reckon I get a point for that or not? I do get a point. Three months is-
Adam Jelic: Three months is a good effort. That’s legit.
Gianna Lucas: Okay, I get a point.
Brendan: I don’t think you get a point.
Gianna Lucas: No, I get a point because I’ve done it, yeah.
Adam Jelic: Was that after you watched The Game Changers?
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, I watched The Game Changers and then went vegan.
Adam Jelic: Okay, yeah.
Brendan: Never have I ever worked in hospitality.
Gianna Lucas: I have worked in hospitality.
Adam Jelic: Never.
Gianna Lucas: Oh, he hasn’t. I now get another point. I’m losing. Okay, what’s the next one?
Adam Jelic: This is good. This is a good name.
Brendan: Never have I ever learned a musical instrument.
Gianna Lucas: I have learned.
Adam Jelic: I have.
Gianna Lucas: I have as well. All right, so we both get a point. Okay, next.
Brendan: Never have I ever had a bad allergic reaction.
Adam Jelic: Never.
Gianna Lucas: Have I?
Adam Jelic: I haven’t.
Gianna Lucas: Brendan, have I had one? I can’t think. No, I can’t say I have. No, no.
Adam Jelic: No, if it was bad you would know about it.
Gianna Lucas: That’s true, that’s right.
Brendan: Never have I ever been in an embarrassing video that was uploaded to YouTube.
Gianna Lucas: That was uploaded to YouTube.
Adam Jelic: I have.
Gianna Lucas: Adam and I both have.
Adam Jelic: Very embarrassing.
Gianna Lucas: What was your video? Can you talk about it?
Adam Jelic: I can talk about it, and I don’t think anyone will ever find it. Richard Branson had this competition. This was years ago. You had to send in a tape or a film. I got me and my dad. We dressed up in these red jackets. My dad is a musician, and we sang this song to Richard Branson to win the competition, and somehow-
Gianna Lucas: What song?
Adam Jelic: We made up a song.
Gianna Lucas: Oh, you made up a song?
Adam Jelic: Yeah. My dad has got a thick European accent, so you can imagine this European accent singing this song to Mr. Branson. We called him Mr. Branson. It was hilarious.
Gianna Lucas: I love it.
Adam Jelic: I think it’s out there on the internet somewhere, but we never found it.
Gianna Lucas: Amazing.
Adam Jelic: I mean, we uploaded it. Someone saw it once and they said, ” Did you do that?” I’m like, ” Yeah, I think I did.”
Gianna Lucas: Yes I did.
Adam Jelic: Yeah, really embarrassing.
Gianna Lucas: It’s not on your LinkedIn. There you go.
Adam Jelic: It’s not on LinkedIn, no.
Gianna Lucas: For me, when I got married, on my wedding day with Brendan, he’s standing next to me, we did a medley.
Adam Jelic: Wow.
Gianna Lucas: We ended up having ourselves, our bridal party, our parents, our MC. There was about 15 of us by the end of the medley. We went for about 12 minutes. I loved it. It was a lot of fun and very funny. It ended up getting like well over 100,000 hits on YouTube.
Adam Jelic: What?
Gianna Lucas: Yeah.
Adam Jelic: Bang, that’s a winner.
Gianna Lucas: You can probably find it, guys, on YouTube.
Adam Jelic: Put the link up there.
Gianna Lucas: I should.
Adam Jelic: You’ve got to put the link. Yeah, put the link out.
Gianna Lucas: I’ll put the link out. All right, next one.
Brendan: Never have I ever been on TV or radio.
Gianna Lucas: Oh, I have.
Adam Jelic: I have.
Gianna Lucas: Okay, we both have. So, we both get a point.
Adam Jelic: On TV?
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, TV or radio.
Adam Jelic: Okay, yeah.
Gianna Lucas: Yeah. Okay, next.
Brendan: Never have I ever accidentally thrown up on a rollercoaster.
Adam Jelic: Never, no.
Gianna Lucas: No, I haven’t either.
Brendan: Never have I ever been to Europe.
Adam Jelic: Can we have a score check?
Gianna Lucas: Score check, score check. Okay, Adam four. Gianna, one, two, three, four, five, six. I’m losing.
Adam Jelic: This is good.
Brendan: Never have I ever been to Europe.
Gianna Lucas: I have been to Europe.
Adam Jelic: I have, yeah.
Gianna Lucas: We both have been to Europe. Okay, so now you’re on five and I’m on seven.
Brendan: Never have I ever played a professional sport.
Adam Jelic: I have.
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, you have. You just spoke about it. You can’t get out of that one. He has, yes, and I haven’t.
Adam Jelic: The one point difference.
Gianna Lucas: One point, yeah.
Brendan: Never have I ever read a novel in one day.
Gianna Lucas: I have. Be honest.
Adam Jelic: That’s a tough question, depending… I mean, there are books that are-
Gianna Lucas: A book. Have you read a book in one day?
Adam Jelic: Yeah, I have. I have.
Gianna Lucas: Yes, we both get a point.
Adam Jelic: Probably a 30 page book.
Gianna Lucas: That’s a novel. We’ll call that a novel.
Brendan: Second last one. Never have I ever walked out of a movie because it was bad.
Adam Jelic: I don’t usually walk out of movies. Now I have to think about this one.
Gianna Lucas: Have a think.
Adam Jelic: Have I ever walked out of a movie? I can’t remember, so I would say no.
Gianna Lucas: You haven’t?
Adam Jelic: If there was one… No I haven’t, no.
Gianna Lucas: Neither have I. I almost walked out, and I’m sorry, I’m sorry because I do love, love Will Ferrell. But Anchorman 2, I almost walked out of that movie because I didn’t know where it was going.
Adam Jelic: Oh, don’t say that.
Gianna Lucas: But I didn’t. I stayed and I stuck it out, and I’m glad I did.
Adam Jelic: You can’t walk out on Will Ferrell. The only one that I was disappointed in was Holmes & Watson. That was terrible.
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, you didn’t like that?
Adam Jelic: No, I didn’t like that. That was a terrible thing for Will.
Gianna Lucas: But you didn’t walk out.
Adam Jelic: I didn’t walk out.
Gianna Lucas: So, you don’t get a point.
Adam Jelic: I stayed in.
Gianna Lucas: That’s good. Okay, last question.
Brendan: Last one. Never have I ever been so sun burnt, I couldn’t wear any clothing.
Adam Jelic: No, no.
Gianna Lucas: I have.
Adam Jelic: I’m sun smart. You have? My wife has.
Gianna Lucas: I have. I am so, so sun smart that Brendan and I wore sunscreen that had expired. We didn’t know it did. We were out in Torquay, out in the surf, and we felt our skin burning up. We didn’t know why. We then went back to our hotel room, and I kid you not, we had become… we were tomatoes. I’m so paranoid about my skin. I actually have an autoimmune disease called vitiligo, so my skin, it’s really important that I take care of it because of the pigmentation. We were so red, we couldn’t even sleep. We couldn’t walk, we couldn’t sit. We almost were rushed to a hospital.
Adam Jelic: Wow. Oh, jeez.
Gianna Lucas: So yes, I have been burned.
Adam Jelic: I haven’t. Sunburns, it’s deceiving, right?
Gianna Lucas: It is.
Adam Jelic: All of a sudden you think you’re fine, and you get back…
Gianna Lucas: Right.
Adam Jelic: It happened to my wife.
Gianna Lucas: You know what it’s like, all right.
Adam Jelic: I’ve learned from experience.
Gianna Lucas: You’ve learned from experience. So have I, and I’ve been through it. All right, so I’ve got a total of nine points. How many points do you have? Okay, do you want to tell us? I’ve got it here, but Brendan, you can read it.
Adam Jelic: I think I won.
Brendan: Drum roll.
Gianna Lucas: Okay. Right up to the mic, Brendan, so he can hear you clearly.
Brendan: Gianna nine, Adam eight.
Gianna Lucas: Adam won.
Adam Jelic: Okay, so what do I win? I’ve been looking forward to this.
Gianna Lucas: You don’t win anything.
Adam Jelic: No prize?
Gianna Lucas: No, you get to become the director of a brand called MiGoals. That’s your prize. Woo!
Adam Jelic: Oh, come on. I’ll take it, I’ll take it.
Gianna Lucas: It’s a good thing to win. You should be grateful. All right, mate. Thank you so much for coming on the show.
Adam Jelic: Loved it.
Gianna Lucas: It was so great to have you on.
Adam Jelic: No, pleasure. Thank you.
Gianna Lucas: Thank you for sharing your insights and inspiration with so many of our listeners. I know that a lot of us have taken away at least three things out of this interview. Thank you so much again.
Adam Jelic: No problem. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me on, Gianna. We’ll speak soon.
Gianna Lucas: I told you Adam was awesome, and now you two can see why. What a way to finish our season one of Power Up Life. Thank you so much for tuning into our weekly episodes throughout this year. What a year 2020 has been. We released 16 of these episodes, and all of them are so different. A huge thank you, of course, to our amazing guests who came on each week, sharing their stories and insights so that you had the tools to help empower you to work towards your goals, to help you break down limiting beliefs, and loads more. With Christmas and the new year around the corner, the Happow team and I want to wish you a happy holiday break.
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