Jess Holsman – The YouTube Star Educating 400K Subs

SUMMARY

Have you ever thought about starting your own YouTube channel? If so, do you know what you’d love to post about and be known for?

There’s loads to love when it comes to YouTube, including the fact that you can make a decent career out of it. Best-selling author, entrepreneur and influencer, Jess Holsman, has been uploading vids to YouTube for years and now in 2020 has a whopping 420,000+ subscribers and over 40,000 followers on Insta. 

‘Study With Jess’ is her main channel and on there you’ll find loads of helpful tips, strategies and resources when it comes to productivity and wellbeing, especially in relation to high school and uni. And she’s absolutely the real deal – what you see is what you get on and offline when it comes to Jess, and we’re stoked to have her on the show this week.

In this episode, Jess and Gianna chat about:

• How she became ‘Study with Jess’
• Starting a YouTube channel and growing her following, particularly in the US
• Dealing with social expectations online
• Jess in high school and the challenges she faced particularly in Year 12
• Launching her own businesses including Educationary
• How to collaborate with other people and brands
• How to prioritise your world so you can be more productive

Also, a bit of a warning, you might hear what sounds like chipmunks towards the end of this episode… Let’s just say this week’s challenge is a little out of the box. Enjoy!

Let’s Power Up Life!

CREDITS

Host: Co-Founder/CEO Happow, Gianna Lucas

Producers: Gianna Lucas, Marija Dukadinovska, Carissa Shale

SUBSCRIBE

Listen via happow.com/podcasts

Subscribe on Apple Podcasts

Subscribe on Spotify

Subscribe on Google Podcasts

#PowerUpLife!

ADVOCATE PROGRAM

Wanna be a Happow Advocate and contribute to our weekly talk topics and more? Email us at [email protected]. Looking forward to hearing from you!

CONTACT US

Via our email at [email protected]

Via our Happow Instagram page here

Via our Happow Facebook page here

Power Up Life is a podcast by Happow

KEEP UP TO DATE WITH OUR GUEST

Instagram: @studywithjess

Instagram: @educationery

TRANSCRIPT

00:00:03
Speaker 1: Three, two, one.

00:00:03
Speaker 2: I’m not just happy, I’m Happow!

00:00:11
Gianna Lucas: This is Power Up Life, the podcast. I’m your host, Gianna Lucas, co- founder and CEO at Happow, the social enterprise that powers this podcast. We help you slay life in high school, uni, and beyond. Each week on the show, you’ll learn epic life skills in a super chill way, hear from well- known legends as they reveal their biggest setbacks and milestones to date, and you’ll find out what our Happow squad think about a whole stack of topics too. From epic challenges to super raw moments, this show has it all. So let’s power up life!
Have you ever thought about starting your own YouTube channel? If so, do you know what you’d love to post about and perhaps be even known for? There’s loads to love when it comes to YouTube, including the fact that you can make a pretty decent career out of it. Bestselling author, entrepreneur and influencer Jessica Holsman has been uploading vids to YouTube for years and now, in 2020, has a whopping 420,000 plus subscribers and over 40, 000 followers on Instagram. Study With Jess is her main channel on YouTube, and on there you’ll find loads of helpful tips, strategies and resources when it comes to productivity and wellbeing, especially in relation to high school and uni. She’s absolutely the real deal. What you see is what you get on and offline when it comes to Jess, and so I’m stoked to have her on the show this week.
In this episode, Jess and I chat about how she became Study With Jess, starting a YouTube channel and growing her following particularly in the US, dealing with social expectations online, Jess in high school and the challenges she faced particularly in year 12, launching her own businesses, including Educationery, how to collaborate with other people and brands, and how to prioritize your world so you can be more productive. Also, a little bit of a warning, you might hear what sounds like chipmunks towards the end of this episode. Let’s just say this week’s challenge is a little out of the box. Enjoy. So let’s power up life. Welcome to the show, Jess.

00:02:42
Jessica Holsman: Thank you so much for having me.

00:02:44
Gianna Lucas: Well, we’re very, very excited to have you because your story is incredible. Look, there’s a lot of influencers out there, we know that, especially in Australia alone. What sets you apart from so many is your heart, your authenticity on your socials, in every single YouTube video you’ve put out there. Just before we went on air, I was telling you that I recently watched one of your mini- series in 2018 called Mind Full. If you haven’t watched it, guys, you should, because it is so, so inspirational. Once again, you are so authentic, sharing your own life, your own struggles that you have, with you fearing what people might think of you. I loved your vulnerability. You’re just incredible.

00:03:23
Jessica Holsman: Oh, thank you. That web series is one of my favorite projects I’ve worked on as yet. It was really a turning point for my career where I wanted to be more authentic. I wanted to let those walls come down. I wanted to just show my viewers, my audience, nothing is perfect, we’re all perfectly imperfect and, no, I don’t have my life all together always, and yes, I know what it feels like to have anxiety, or have a panic attack, or go through a breakup. I just wanted to be relatable so that they can connect and that I can make a positive difference.

00:03:55
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, and you definitely are. But I want to go right back to the beginning. How did you become Study With Jess? Did you always have the intention or desire to set up a YouTube channel?

00:04:07
Jessica Holsman: Definitely not. When I was in high school, YouTube wasn’t even a thing. Oh sorry, it had just started, but it was really just where you would watch those cat videos and little funny clips. It was definitely not a career to be a YouTuber. I had never heard of it. I started watching YouTube maybe when I was around 23, 24. I started watching people like Bethany Mota and all those makeup tutorials because the beauty gurus really started up the platform and making that seem like you can actually turn it into a career. But I really didn’t think I was going to be a YouTuber or an influencer.
It was only when I was 24 I remember one evening sitting in the kitchen of my parents’ place with my boyfriend of the time, who’s now my beautiful husband, Adam, and I really find it hard to explain but there was this wave of passion that came over me and I just felt this need to be a positive role model. It’s like, the best way to describe it is, I wanted to take people under my wings and I wanted to be there for them because I didn’t have a role model like that when I was growing up. I didn’t have someone to turn to and explain anxiety, or relationships, or pressure and being a perfectionist. Of course, there are psychologists out there, but there was no one that I could relate to that was a similar age.
And so that evening I thought of a name. I thought, ” You know what? Study With Jess. It’s going to start off with study tips,” and obviously over time it definitely broadened with the content and it became more about mental health, productivity, wellness. Yeah, just the next day created the channel Study With Jess and a couple of months later posted my first video, which actually, I Youtubed, “How to upload my first video onto YouTube.” I didn’t know what I was doing.

00:05:49
Gianna Lucas: Thank goodness for YouTube, hey?

00:05:50
Jessica Holsman: Thank goodness for YouTube. It’s taught me a lot. Yeah.

00:05:52
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, that’s amazing. It’s grown so much and obviously, as we said at the start, you have 445, 000 YouTube subscribers across your three channels, but majority do follow Study With Jess, because I think when I last checked it was 420,000 or a little bit more, which is incredible. So I’d love to ask you for one, how did you grow your following? Is there a formula? And also, the other part of this question I want to ask you is, how do you navigate this world as an influencer, especially now? Because influencer is like, I reckon, the word for 2020. I’m just putting it out there. How do you do all that?

00:06:24
Jessica Holsman: Oh, we’ve got to break that down. That’s a lot of stuff in there. So I think the first-

00:06:28
Gianna Lucas: Yes, it’s a full- on question.

00:06:30
Jessica Holsman: It’s full-on.

00:06:31
Gianna Lucas: My apologies.

00:06:31
Jessica Holsman: No, no, it’s good. It’s so important to talk about this. So the first thing I’ll address is how I actually grew the channel. Is there a formula? Look, people like to say that there is a formula, but to be honest, it isn’t really 100% all about this just very straightforward plan that you can have as you start up a channel. There’s a lot of things that go into it. Is there a formula? Definitely there is something that people talk about regularly, which is posting your videos at the same time every week, being consistent, making sure that you’ve got a good description in your tags. But I think what helped me grow my channel was actually, at the time there wasn’t another channel out there like mine. So there were channels that once a year around that back to school period, they would post up a video around their back to school tips and DIY school supplies and it was really fun, but it would only last a couple of weeks, really. Or there would-

00:07:27
Gianna Lucas: So it was like a series type of thing?

00:07:28
Jessica Holsman: It was like a little mini- series. It was a trending topic and that was it. Then it would sort of drop off and you’d go back to the beauty and fashion and lifestyle and other DIY videos that they would do throughout the year.

00:07:37
Gianna Lucas: It wasn’t really specific on one particular area.

00:07:40
Jessica Holsman: Exactly, exactly. Then there were the videos that would talk very specifically about content you’d study in school, so like how to understand algebra. It was very content specific. It wasn’t broad enough.

00:07:54
Gianna Lucas: I would have been watching that.

00:07:55
Jessica Holsman: No, no.

00:07:55
Gianna Lucas: Me and algebra do not go hand in hand.

00:07:57
Jessica Holsman: It was so dry. You’ve got those lecturers that are 50 years old. They’re not relatable. They’re-

00:08:02
Gianna Lucas: Well, not for youth anyway.

00:08:03
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:08:04
Gianna Lucas: Maybe my dad. My dad’s all over that stuff anyway.

00:08:07
Jessica Holsman: Maybe. But I would watch these videos and I thought, ” Well, can we create some kind of a hybrid here? Can we have the aesthetics of the fashion and lifestyle and DIY girls but then also create videos that have this rich content that’s going to make a positive impact? And we’re going to talk about things that are not age specific, gender specific, but that are relatable to students and young adults in Australia, in India, in Singapore, in the United States, United Kingdom,” wherever the rest of my audience happened to be. They’re all over the place, which is amazing.

00:08:37
Gianna Lucas: Mars.

00:08:38
Jessica Holsman: Mars. Well, we haven’t gone that far.

00:08:39
Gianna Lucas: One day.

00:08:40
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, one day, let’s say that. One day. But yeah, I think that that was something that I was able to capitalize on, that I was doing something very different. I was filling a niche or a gap in the market. But then I really do think it comes down to the intention. People want something real and you have to share a part of yourself. You have to let them in. That’s something that I really have tried to do over the last few years. I wanted to give value. I didn’t just want it to be, ” Hey, here’s me doing X, Y, Z, a normal vlog and day in the life.” I wanted them to feel like there was a real exchange of value there. So I think that that definitely helped set me apart and it helped me grow my channel. It wasn’t something that happened overnight though. I remember, and my parents-

00:09:24
Gianna Lucas: When did you start your channel? What year?

00:09:25
Jessica Holsman: I started it in 2015.

00:09:27
Gianna Lucas: So how did your followers then grow from, obviously, one or two to now 420,000? Has it sort of accelerated over the last couple of years as you’ve built up your content? Are people getting to know you a lot more? Is that sort of how it’s happened?

00:09:40
Jessica Holsman: Yeah. So, yeah, I think it took me about six months to gain about 100,000 subscribers.

00:09:48
Gianna Lucas: Wow, six months. That’s it?

00:09:49
Jessica Holsman: Which is actually really quick when I think about it. I was very impatient-

00:09:52
Gianna Lucas: Wow.

00:09:52
Jessica Holsman: … because I compared myself to all the other creators online, thinking, ” Oh, I’m still really small. It’s not good enough.”

00:09:57
Gianna Lucas: I’d be pretty stoked with 100, 000.

00:09:58
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, yeah. Well, now I’m really stoked.

00:10:01
Gianna Lucas: Now you have 400, you’re like, ” Yeah. 100, 000, whatever.”

00:10:05
Jessica Holsman: It was so interesting because the first 100, 000 took six months. The next 100,000 took half the time. And so it was growing exponentially.

00:10:11
Gianna Lucas: Wow, that’s incredible.

00:10:12
Jessica Holsman: I think it’s also because you’ve got more content and more videos, you’re gaining more traction faster.

00:10:18
Gianna Lucas: I guess people are recommending it to their friends, ” Hey, check out Study With Jess,” and whatnot. Yeah.

00:10:21
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, exactly. So there’s a greater chance that more people will discover your content online. But then I also noticed what kind of videos are trending online and I would try and create content around those topics. So when it came time to the middle of the year for the US, they’re going back to school. So that’s when I would roll out my back to school videos and have it very specifically target them because a lot of people were looking for that content. I definitely think that that made a difference. I saw a big spike, actually. Because I think I posted my first video in March of 2015, and then in July I posted my back to school videos that I had a gut feeling, I thought they were going to get more traction, and I gained 18,000 subscribers overnight, which was crazy.

00:11:05
Gianna Lucas: Wowzers. Wow.

00:11:05
Jessica Holsman: Because I think I was sitting at 2,000 at the time. So I thought to myself, ” Okay. So you know what? This does work.”

00:11:08
Gianna Lucas: They would have all been American?

00:11:10
Jessica Holsman: They would have all been American, yeah. And for a while I saw a majority of my audience were from the US. They still are, about 40% are, but now I see over time that I definitely have more Australian viewers and subscribers and followers.

00:11:23
Gianna Lucas: Well, is it because, I don’t know if I’m saying this correctly or not, but I feel like America set the trends and then Australia are like, ” Oh, we’ll do it too.”

00:11:30
Jessica Holsman: I agree.

00:11:30
Gianna Lucas: And so it’s like we’re always late to the show. We’re like, ” Oh, let’s get onto this. Oh, she’s Australian? She has an Aussie accent. How did I not get onto this sooner?” Yeah.

00:11:39
Jessica Holsman: I have to agree. Mind you, the Aussie accent, it was working to my advantage because it was, again, making me different. Everyone’s like, ” Oh my God, who is this girl? She sounds different.”

00:11:47
Gianna Lucas: Americans love Aussies, don’t they?

00:11:48
Jessica Holsman: Yeah.

00:11:49
Gianna Lucas: Yeah.

00:11:49
Jessica Holsman: Actually, a lot of them thought I was Canadian or English and I’m thinking-

00:11:53
Gianna Lucas: I’m know I’m speaking of ignorance here, but I sometimes can’t tell the difference between a Canadian and an American accent. So do they think they’re very different to the Canadian accent? Is this me speaking out?

00:12:02
Jessica Holsman: I don’t know.

00:12:03
Gianna Lucas: I’ve got friends who are Canadian and American, and sometimes I’m like, ” Where are you from again?”

00:12:07
Jessica Holsman: Yeah.

00:12:08
Gianna Lucas: You can’t tell them though. If you say to an American, ” Are you Canadian?” it’s like, no, and vice versa. You can’t. Yeah. I’ve got friends that are Canadian. When I met them for the first time I’m like, “Are you American?” They’re like, ” No!”

00:12:18
Jessica Holsman: No, and they take offense.

00:12:19
Gianna Lucas: They do, yeah.

00:12:19
Jessica Holsman: If you get it wrong, they take offense.

00:12:21
Gianna Lucas: It’s like if someone says to me, “Are you Kiwi?” if they don’t understand the Australian accent, I’m like, “Yeah, no. But Kiwi’s are cool, man.” Anyway.

00:12:28
Jessica Holsman: Like, ” Thanks, but no, I’m not.”

00:12:30
Gianna Lucas: (crosstalk) . Yeah, that’s right. So tell us a little bit, how do you navigate this world as an influencer, especially in 2020? Well, from what I see online, sometimes there’s a lot of pressures. I do listen to a few podcasts and I read a lot about it. I love hearing stories about influencers opening up about their life as an influencer and what it means because sometimes there is a lot of judgment that comes your way, that you always have to be this type of person, and if you stray from that then you’re a fake, or it’s almost this expectation you’ve got to be something for someone else and not entirely yourself because people have this perception and this persona of you and they just expect you to be that. How do you navigate through all of that? Because I know, from what I see, you are very authentic, but I can imagine there’d still be challenges.

00:13:10
Jessica Holsman: Yeah. It’s definitely something that was quite tricky at the beginning. I remember getting a comment that they thought I was fake and I was like… Of all the things someone could say to me, that was the most hurtful-

00:13:21
Gianna Lucas: Oh, yeah.

00:13:21
Jessica Holsman: … because I thought, ” You know what? I’m not fake.” But I really took some time and I thought to myself, ” Am I being as honest and open as I could be?” On top of that, if we go back to what we were just discussing about how you actually grow a channel, you’ve got to be posting regularly. If you are posting a video a week or even three videos a week for five years, six years, seven years to keep this momentum and keep creating content, eventually you’re going to get sick of creating the fluff. You’re going to want, for your own piece of mind and your own passion, to keep that fire going, to feel like you are making a positive difference. At some point, I guarantee, you’re just going to say, ” It’s enough. I actually don’t care. I don’t care if my makeup is perfect. I don’t care if I have a perfect film set. I don’t care about what’s trending on the internet right now. I need to make this because otherwise, I’m not going to continue. It’s not sustainable.” If you’re not authentic, I don’t think it’s sustainable. I think it’s definitely-

00:14:11
Gianna Lucas: Because people are smart, right?

00:14:12
Jessica Holsman: They are.

00:14:12
Gianna Lucas: They see right through it. Yeah.

00:14:13
Jessica Holsman: They can absolutely see through it. Even when I was creating the documentary Mind Full, we had a focus group watch a couple of my videos and some of them actually picked out some of the videos that they thought, ” Is that really real? Is that your morning routine? Do you really do that? Why is that thing written in your stationary? Is your diary that organized?” That’s when I realized, ” Okay, I have to hold myself to a higher standard and I need to start being more honest, because if I am honest and I embrace my authentic self, it’s not only empowering for me, I’m actually going to be of more assistance to my audience.”

00:14:50
Gianna Lucas: 100%, yeah, yeah. Incredible. I know that you released a book once, which you are a bestselling author for.

00:14:56
Jessica Holsman: Yay.

00:14:57
Gianna Lucas: And it’s The High School Survival Guide. Can you tell me a little bit about your experience when you were in high school? Was it amazing? Or did you go through ups and downs like every other teenager at school?

00:15:10
Jessica Holsman: Definitely remember high school being a positive experience overall. I had great friends. I wasn’t the popular kid, but I felt like I was popular enough. I had a really good friendship circle. There wasn’t a lot of drama amongst my friends. But by the time I got to year 12, so studying VCE-

00:15:28
Gianna Lucas: Or HSC.

00:15:29
Jessica Holsman: Or HSC, yeah. I-

00:15:30
Gianna Lucas: I think they call it HSC across Australia now.

00:15:32
Jessica Holsman: Oh, is it? It’s changed?

00:15:33
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, I think so.

00:15:34
Jessica Holsman: Okay. Got to get up with the times now.

00:15:35
Gianna Lucas: Yeah. Now everyone’s shaking-

00:15:37
Jessica Holsman: No.

00:15:37
Gianna Lucas: Nah, we don’t know. Same, same.

00:15:39
Jessica Holsman: Year 12 studies, we’ll go with that, just to be safe. But I put more than enough pressure on myself. Yeah, my parents were super supportive. I remember them always saying, ” As long as you do your best.” I took that to mean, ” You have to do your best. So what is your best? Your best is when you no longer can go anymore. When you get to breaking point.”

00:16:02
Gianna Lucas: Right.

00:16:02
Jessica Holsman: And that is definitely not what they meant. But that’s just how I internalized it. I was like, ” I’ve got to do my best so that I can be proud of what I’ve done.” I put way too much pressure on myself.

00:16:12
Gianna Lucas: I’m guessing you’re a bit of a perfectionist.

00:16:15
Jessica Holsman: Honey, even my blood type is A positive.

00:16:17
Gianna Lucas: Oh, I love it. I love it. That was a great joke.

00:16:23
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, yeah.

00:16:23
Gianna Lucas: The comedian. I should have added that to your bio at the start.

00:16:25
Jessica Holsman: Oh, thanks.

00:16:25
Gianna Lucas: My apologies for that. Yeah, so you are a bit of a perfectionist.

00:16:28
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, yeah.

00:16:29
Gianna Lucas: Which I guess, when you are a perfectionist, sometimes you take what people say to the extreme. So if someone says to you, even if you’re fake, you’re like, ” I’m not fake. I’m me,” because you uphold yourself to a very high standard. And if people don’t interpret it as a high standard, that can get very overwhelming-

00:16:44
Jessica Holsman: Yeah.

00:16:44
Gianna Lucas: … and I guess difficult to receive because you take it on as feedback or criticism. Yeah.

00:16:48
Jessica Holsman: Absolutely. I think I did really well in my studies for year 12, but I think it was in spite of all of the stress. I don’t think I needed to stress that much. I don’t think I needed to put so much pressure on myself. If anything, maybe I could have done actually a little bit better if I didn’t really feel like I had to do my absolute best because, ” This is how I’m setting myself up for my entire life, and if I don’t get this enter score, I can’t do this degree, and then I can’t do my master’s, and then I can’t get this job, and then I can’t earn this much money.” Literally, this was the internal dialogue I had going on at 17, 18 years old, which is crazy.

00:17:22
Gianna Lucas: Because you were looking into the future. I think I feel, I would also call myself, at times, a perfectionist too. I think perfectionism is directly related to being a futurist, looking into the future, because you’re trying to perfect what you have in front of you and you’re also trying to line up the perfect future for yourself, which also is unrealistic because none of us knows what the future holds. It’s about, I guess, understanding that and working through that and being kind to yourself. Am I right?

00:17:49
Jessica Holsman: Absolutely. I like that you put it that way because I never thought about it that way. But I do think that I was trying to control everything. I think it was out of fear of not knowing what my life would otherwise be. I needed this sense of control. I needed to feel like the future was not this great unknown, even though everything is always changing and you have to embrace unknowns. A lot of amazing things can come from that. And you know what? I had a 10 year plan. I was working towards it. I got into that degree. I had that enter score. I got that scholarship.
Then one day, things just change, and you might have an idea to start a stationary line or a YouTube channel. Your passion changes. Your perspective on life and your priorities change. I had to create space for that to actually enter my life. So I had to stop being such a perfectionist and stop being so controlling because I’m not into 10 year plans anymore. I think it’s great to have goals, but when you are so specific with how your life has to look and you put all that pressure onto you and you say, ” I’ve got to be the maker of my future. It’s all in my hands,” oh my goodness. I would just be on the floor. I’ve got to surrender to something higher than me and I’ve got to be able to lean on other people as well.

00:19:04
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, as otherwise it’s so much pressure. You feel the weight on your shoulders literally and you just go, ” I’m just going to go and lie down,” as you said, ” Talk to me in 10 years. Bye-bye.” Now on your stationary line, it’s called Educationery.

00:19:18
Jessica Holsman: Yes.

00:19:18
Gianna Lucas: And it helps people who are studying. But you also have another business which you launched in 2019 called Self Love Gift Boxes. How did you go about starting these businesses? They’re both very, very different. I guess the other question I wanted to ask you is, what advice would you give to somebody who’s listening who’s like, ” I’d love to start a side hustle,” or, ” I’d love to start a business one day”? What advice would you give to them based on what you’ve learnt being in business so far, having two businesses especially?

00:19:43
Jessica Holsman: Yeah. Okay. So with Educationery, that happened because I was scrolling through Instagram one night. I was on holidays.

00:19:52
Gianna Lucas: What year was this, by the way?

00:19:52
Jessica Holsman: This was in 2014, at the very end.

00:19:56
Gianna Lucas: So the year after you-

00:19:56
Jessica Holsman: No, no, the very end of 2014, before I started my YouTube channel.

00:20:00
Gianna Lucas: Okay. So you had the thought beforehand?

00:20:02
Jessica Holsman: Yeah.

00:20:02
Gianna Lucas: Before your YouTube channel?

00:20:03
Jessica Holsman: Yeah.

00:20:03
Gianna Lucas: Oh, that’s a bit of a fun fact.

00:20:05
Jessica Holsman: So I-

00:20:06
Gianna Lucas: There we go.

00:20:06
Jessica Holsman: Yeah. So I was sitting in bed, scrolling through Instagram, and I found this brand. I don’t even know what it’s called, but they were giant coloring posters. I thought, ” Oh my goodness. This is so cool.”

00:20:16
Gianna Lucas: So, what do you mean? Like as in big posters you color in with textiles? Like kids’ coloring books?

00:20:21
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, like huge sheets of butcher paper with these templates on it, and you stick it on your wall and it’s for kids.

00:20:26
Gianna Lucas: Of mandalas?

00:20:26
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, but huge.

00:20:27
Gianna Lucas: Okay.

00:20:27
Jessica Holsman: Huge.

00:20:27
Gianna Lucas: Oh, I’ve never heard of it.

00:20:28
Jessica Holsman: And it could be for adults, it could be for kids. I think it’s actually intended for children. Yeah, that’s right.

00:20:32
Gianna Lucas: And Jess.

00:20:32
Jessica Holsman: It was intended for children. And Jess. But something happened and it was weird. Something happened and it was like this realization that I had shut off a huge part of myself. I had denied my creativity for the last four years while I was studying psychology. So I used to dance a lot when I was younger. I used to go to drama class. I used to do art class. I was really creative. Then I just think I lost that balance in my life. I didn’t prioritize it. I thought, “If I’m not pursuing it professionally, why should I be creative? What’s the point?”
I mean, it’s so important for your mental health, and I think because I was deprived of creativity for so long, I just got so excited, elated, about doing something creative, and I thought, ” I want to do something like that, but not exactly that. How can I put my own flair on it?” From there, over a couple of months, the idea formed for this educational stationary line. A lot of late nights of sketching. I was sketching till 3: 00 in the morning. I am not joking, my dad’s a GP, I asked him if I could get a blood test because I thought I was manic. I thought something was wrong. And you know what? It’s sad, but it’s hilarious because obviously, I was just so excited about life that I was so energized.

00:21:46
Gianna Lucas: You were powering up life.

00:21:48
Jessica Holsman: Oh my gosh-

00:21:49
Gianna Lucas: I went there.

00:21:49
Jessica Holsman: … was I ever? Yes, you did.

00:21:52
Gianna Lucas: That’s incredible. So keep going, keep going.

00:21:54
Jessica Holsman: Yeah. So that was how the idea happened, but then there was a lot of sketching. Then I found a beautiful graphic designer, Zoe Ingram. I found her online. She’s actually based in Adelaide. So we would Skype. I sent her over all of the templates and she turned them into these ready to print PDFs.

00:22:13
Gianna Lucas: Fantastic.

00:22:13
Jessica Holsman: I found a print broker through word of mouth.

00:22:16
Gianna Lucas: What’s a print broker? Is that like a printing press place?

00:22:18
Jessica Holsman: A print broker. So he’s the guy, good old Theo, he’s the guy that you send-

00:22:24
Gianna Lucas: Good old Theo. Go, Theo.

00:22:24
Jessica Holsman: … all of your documents to. He’ll send you some different kinds of paper stock. So like, ” Do you want it recycled? Do you want it this white? Do you want thicker stock? Do you want thinner paper?” Then you choose your paper and you send him the documents. He then gets it all printed up for you. He oversees the whole manufacturing process and, voilà, you have stationary. So in the meantime-

00:22:44
Gianna Lucas: Sounds incredible.

00:22:45
Jessica Holsman: Yeah.

00:22:46
Gianna Lucas: So this broker guy, it sounds like he’s the in between man between you and the printer.

00:22:50
Jessica Holsman: Yes, yes.

00:22:51
Gianna Lucas: So he obviously has an acumen, an understanding of, well, what documents need to look like for print and you just go, ” Love it.”

00:22:59
Jessica Holsman: Exactly.

00:23:00
Gianna Lucas: Is it a bit like fashion designers? I’ve got a couple of friends who are fashion designers or some of my friends have also been influencers that have created a special line for a brand. So I guess they have the concept, they’ve got the idea of what they want. They don’t actually have the full understanding of how to all put it together. So then they go to someone like this broker dude.

00:23:19
Jessica Holsman: Exactly.

00:23:20
Gianna Lucas: What’s his name?

00:23:20
Jessica Holsman: Theo.

00:23:20
Gianna Lucas: Theo. I was going to say Sal. I don’t know where that came from. Theo. And then he does all the rest. Is that right?

00:23:24
Jessica Holsman: Exactly. So in the meantime, while that was all getting made, I was YouTube- ing, ” How to design my own website on big commerce,” because you’ve got to have a website. Yeah, I decided-

00:23:34
Gianna Lucas: For people to buy the stuff. I mean, that’d be a good idea.

00:23:36
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, exactly.

00:23:37
Gianna Lucas: Especially if you’re not in store.

00:23:38
Jessica Holsman: Yeah. But I just thought, ” You know what? I’m going to do it all online because then it’s just a lot cheaper.” I just thought, “You know what? I don’t actually want to rent a space. I want to keep it all online.”

00:23:48
Gianna Lucas: 100%. You were thinking ahead.

00:23:50
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, exactly.

00:23:51
Gianna Lucas: Because of course now, as we know, retail is struggling, unfortunately in Australia and many other countries because of online purchases.

00:23:57
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, and I wanted a business that gives me that flexibility that I can work from home, that I can expand, that I can employ people. Yeah, so I was designing the website and learning about email marketing like Mailchimp and, I mean, all that stuff.

00:24:10
Gianna Lucas: What year was this again?

00:24:11
Jessica Holsman: This was in, well, now we’d be in 2015, by the time-

00:24:15
Gianna Lucas: That’s incredible.

00:24:15
Jessica Holsman: … it had actually started.

00:24:15
Gianna Lucas: Because I use Mailchimp, but I mean, I got onto it in the last year or so. It’s just amazing that you’ve learnt all these things at the cusp, I guess, of when it was about to become something massive.

00:24:28
Jessica Holsman: Yeah.

00:24:28
Gianna Lucas: So you’ve been a real trailblazer, which is wonderful for you in your career path as you’ve continued to grow.

00:24:34
Jessica Holsman: It was right at the time where you could either go and pay a web designer $ 5, 000 to do your website and Mailchimp newsletters or you now can utilize YouTube and Google and figure it out yourself if you’ve got the time. I definitely had the drive and the motivation. So I’m really all up for teaching myself new things. I love being an independent learner, so that was definitely something that played in my advantage. That was a strength of mine. But yeah, that was really the process of setting up Educationery. Then-

00:25:00
Gianna Lucas: The Self Love Club, that’s actually gift boxes, right?

00:25:03
Jessica Holsman: Yes.

00:25:03
Gianna Lucas: That people can receive to then feel empowered to practice more self- love-

00:25:08
Jessica Holsman: Yeah.

00:25:08
Gianna Lucas: … and self- care on a regular basis? So, that’s a bit different again because it’s a product that you are working with with other people because the box is filled with products from other businesses. So is there any advice that you can give to people that are wanting to start up their own business, potentially something that is to do with a subscription based model or wanting to collaborate with other businesses? How can they best go about it, moving forward?

00:25:30
Jessica Holsman: So I think when it comes to working with anyone, whether you need a graphic designer, a web designer, a photographer, a videographer, an editor, or you’re looking at stocking other people’s products in your gift boxes or in your online store, I always put it down to, ” Are these people reliable and do their values align with mine?” If so, things just work so smoothly. So I spent maybe three weeks looking at different brands that I really liked, their chocolate, or their tea, or their essential oil rollers, and a lot of the other products in the gift boxes I actually make. So those intentional-

00:26:04
Gianna Lucas: Really?

00:26:05
Jessica Holsman: Yeah. The intentional exercises like the love letter to yourself.

00:26:08
Gianna Lucas: I didn’t know that.

00:26:09
Jessica Holsman: The planting seeds activity.

00:26:10
Gianna Lucas: Oh.

00:26:10
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, that was all me, little creative busy bear there.

00:26:14
Gianna Lucas: The A plus student, also blood type.

00:26:16
Jessica Holsman: The A plus student. Yep. But I actually just reached out to the one tea brand Mayde Tea, Loco Love Chocolate. All of these different brands I had a genuine connection to. I had tried their products before. I sent them an email. I said, ” Do you sell wholesale? If so, do you have minimum orders?”

00:26:33
Gianna Lucas: Right.

00:26:34
Jessica Holsman: Within a day, each brand got back to me and said, ” Yep. No worries-“

00:26:38
Gianna Lucas: Wow.

00:26:38
Jessica Holsman: … ” our minimum order is 10 units.” It was nothing. I’d barely hold stock, which is so good because my startup costs were so small, like under $ 3, 000 to start Self Love Club Gift Boxes. Because-

00:26:49
Gianna Lucas: That’s incredible.

00:26:49
Jessica Holsman: … I was thinking, ” Okay, how can I create something that’s meaningful but that isn’t going to really weigh me down now that I’m running multiple businesses as well?”

00:26:58
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, that’s right. Because, you’re juggling a lot.

00:27:01
Jessica Holsman: Yeah.

00:27:01
Gianna Lucas: Which would probably be my last question. How do you juggle everything that you do? Because you do a lot, and on top of that, you do get invited to speak at different conferences and you appear on shows like this. So how do you manage that with also having to upload lots of content on YouTube and also on your social platforms as well?

00:27:20
Jessica Holsman: With social media, I do everything in bulk. So, that’s my tip. If anyone has a YouTube channel, film in bulk. I will usually film three videos in one go and then edit them, or even four sometimes. Then you can just schedule everything. So I just have a little note in my diary, ” Every Tuesday morning your video’s gone up on YouTube, so make sure to reply to comments and see what the response has been to that video.”

00:27:43
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, because I’ve seen, on some of your videos you’re getting thousands of comments. That’s-

00:27:46
Jessica Holsman: I don’t reply to thousands anymore.

00:27:47
Gianna Lucas: I was going to say, that’s a full- time job. You almost need someone just to go, ” Thank you for your comment. XX. XOXO,” whatever it might be.

00:27:54
Jessica Holsman: ” XOXO, Jess.”

00:27:55
Gianna Lucas: It’s that girl.

00:27:58
Jessica Holsman: I spend about an hour on Tuesday mornings replying to comments and sharing it across social media. But social media has been quite manageable when it’s that sort of stuff. Then even photos, like if I’ve got something happening, I’ll take content then and there and it’s very organic. But otherwise, you can do photos in advance. You can take a bunch of photos. I think that you’ve done this as well. Yeah, I got my photographer from you.

00:28:20
Gianna Lucas: Oh, that’s right.

00:28:20
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, good old Sofe.

00:28:20
Gianna Lucas: Good old Sofe.

00:28:20
Jessica Holsman: Yeah.

00:28:23
Gianna Lucas: There you go. So it always helps, especially, I agree, if you have professional photography it makes it a lot easier. I think because it’s good to have, especially with Instagram in the gallery, at least consistency in your photography because it’s a visual platform, so that makes sense.

00:28:35
Jessica Holsman: Exactly, exactly. Then my Instagram stories are where it’s just me, I haven’t showered, I’ve come back from yoga. I don’t care. ” I just really need to let you know this, so I want to share this quote,” or, “Hey, I’ve got a new video up.” So social media, it’s quite manageable, so I’m really thankful for that.
As far as the businesses go, Educationery and Self Love Club Gift Boxes, I set aside time every second day at the end of my day around that quarter to five to pack orders. So whatever comes through, that’s when I send it off. Because, I like the idea of finishing my day doing something that shows my accomplishments, like, ” Hey, look, I’m really proud of this,” and I’m sending something off. I think that’s a nice way to clock off from a busy day.

00:29:14
Gianna Lucas: It’s great advice, it is, because you feel like, as you say, you’ve accomplished something, you’ve achieved it, ” A plus to me.”

00:29:19
Jessica Holsman: Yeah.

00:29:21
Gianna Lucas: But it’s true. Then you can get started on doing your home life stuff because you are married. You’ve got your gorgeous dog.

00:29:27
Jessica Holsman: I’ve got my dog, little Winston.

00:29:29
Gianna Lucas: Winston. He’s very cute. So you’re also managing your personal life as well because you’re not living at home, you are completely independent. And so that also comes with washing and cleaning and cooking, fun stuff.

00:29:41
Jessica Holsman: All the blah, blah, blah.

00:29:41
Gianna Lucas: Yeah.

00:29:42
Jessica Holsman: But you know what? It’s so important just to remember, my mum used to always say this quote, ” You can do anything but you can’t do everything,” and that’s true. I actually, the other month, I wrote down everything that I do for my work and then I was like, ” What do I actually have to do? Could anything be done smarter? What things do I really not want to do going forward?” So I have my blog on both websites. I have newsletters. I have a quote newsletter. I have Instagram posts for three accounts. Do I need to post every day for all of them? Probably not. Do I need to send out a newsletter every week for Educationery and Self Love Club? Probably not. Do I want to post weekly on YouTube? Yes. So, that sort of stuff.

00:30:21
Gianna Lucas: So prioritizing your time and basically saying what’s a must do and what’s a maybe and what’s a never. Would you agree with that?

00:30:29
Jessica Holsman: Yeah.

00:30:29
Gianna Lucas: “I will get to this in the next decade. See you in 2030, everyone.” Yeah, maybe.

00:30:35
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, because where are you going to create the biggest positive impact? And what is going to help build your business the most efficiently? That’s what I ask myself when I think about adding more to my plate because it does get hectic otherwise. I just really don’t want to suffer from burnout anymore, and I feel like I hold myself to a much higher standard now. I think it’s normal, even if you’re 20, 30, 40, 50, we’re human beings, we can get burnt out. But it’s like I know better now. I want to try and prevent that as best as I can.

00:31:09
Gianna Lucas: Very smart advice because burnout, nobody wants to get burnout. For myself, I had chronic fatigue, ended up getting diagnosed with it when I was in year 12 going into first year uni because I pushed myself way too much. I now live with an autoimmune disease because of that, which I manage absolutely fine, but I’m constantly reminded of going, ” Pace yourself. Stay calm, cool, collected. It’s all good. Be present. Be grateful.” All those things do make a massive difference because you’re able to put things into perspective and be satisfied and thankful for how far you’ve come, what you’re achieving every day. So I think it’s wonderful that you finish off with that activity every day because you feel accomplished. Because it’s good to reward yourself, not just on those larger milestones but also the everyday ones as well, so great advice. Thanks, Jess.

00:31:59
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, pleasure.

00:32:00
Speaker 5: This is Power Up Life, the podcast.

00:32:07
Carissa Shale: This week, we asked you what one thing you can’t live without and here’s what you had to say.

00:32:13
Speaker 7: I can’t live without my planners. I am a very organized person, so I like to have my color coordinated calendar as well as my weekly planner and to- do list to keep me feeling organized, energized and ready for the week and months ahead.

00:32:28
Speaker 8: One of the things I can’t live without are my friends. The other is my phone. Although they say, ” You don’t need your phone,” I have my entire life on there, memories and many more things that stay close to me. I’m also very creative and use this device for other things that suit my hobbies and interests.

00:32:45
Speaker 9: Coffee. Not just in the way that I absolutely love coffee at home, at a café or anything, but just in how it’s an excuse and opportunity to go out and meet up with people and just to get out of the house and consider my life, do some work somewhere. I just love the culture that it’s created, especially down here in Melbourne.

00:33:07
Speaker 10: I actually don’t think I could live without my phone. But the reason why I say that I can’t actually live without it is because it’s the way I connect with my family and my loved ones, like my partner, because they all live overseas. I think this is becoming an increasing reality in our world that lots of us, especially those of us who are immigrants in Australia, have families and connections and loved ones that are overseas that are relationships that are really valued.

00:33:33
Carissa Shale: I’m Carissa Shale and that’s this weeks Talk Topic. Got something to share? Drop us an email, yoursay@ happow. com.

00:33:42
Speaker 11: Want to power up life? Download your free Power Pack wallpapers at happow. com.

00:33:48
Gianna Lucas: I would love to ask you what you’re most grateful for, big and small, because I can imagine that you’ve had a lot of life lessons thrown at you since you started this journey. So can you tell us a little bit about what it is that you’re most grateful for and why?

00:34:03
Jessica Holsman: Wow, okay. So I usually-

00:34:05
Gianna Lucas: It’s a big question.

00:34:06
Jessica Holsman: I usually think about my gratitudes each morning, so they’re really small and specific. Actually, I was doing that in the car on the way here. I was like, ” What am I grateful for today? I’m grateful for my dog. I’m grateful that we’re moving apartments and everything’s packed in boxes already, so I’m grateful that that’s all done. And I’m grateful I slept really well last night.” But thinking about-

00:34:25
Gianna Lucas: Did you?

00:34:25
Jessica Holsman: I did.

00:34:25
Gianna Lucas: Good on you.

00:34:26
Jessica Holsman: Yeah.

00:34:27
Gianna Lucas: Because the weather’s been a little bit-

00:34:28
Jessica Holsman: So hot.

00:34:29
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, off the charts.

00:34:29
Jessica Holsman: Ugh, that’s why I’m so grateful.

00:34:30
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, I didn’t sleep as well. Good on you, girl.

00:34:33
Jessica Holsman: Thanks. But what am I most grateful for in life? Wow, okay. I really haven’t-

00:34:40
Gianna Lucas: Even something that was potentially very hard to handle but in hindsight you’re so grateful it happened because it’s made you who you are today. Yeah.

00:34:50
Jessica Holsman: It’s like, honestly, if I look back on my life, everything that’s happened, I honestly believe everything that happens, happens for a reason.

00:34:57
Gianna Lucas: Yes, same with me.

00:34:57
Jessica Holsman: Collabs.

00:34:57
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, yeah.

00:34:59
Jessica Holsman: Any time that there is adversity, it is there to teach you, it is there to help you untangle. It acts as an invitation for you to go and do the work and look at yourself and say, ” Where am I blocking the best possible version of me from coming out?” So what am I most grateful for? I mean, thinking about over the last year at least, I am so incredibly grateful to my mentors, my advisers, my psychologist, everyone that has helped me become the more centered self- assured version of myself. Even one person that really inspired Self Love Club Gift Boxes, although I haven’t met her in person, was-

00:35:44
Gianna Lucas: Was me?

00:35:45
Jessica Holsman: No. I am grateful for our friendship though. Absolutely. If you’ve ever heard of Marisa Peer. She is-

00:35:51
Gianna Lucas: No, I haven’t.

00:35:52
Jessica Holsman: I think she’s Britain’s number one hypnotherapist.

00:35:55
Gianna Lucas: Okay.

00:35:55
Jessica Holsman: I did her online course last year and it was all about self- love and compassion. That was when I was going through… They say what we do is what we need the most. So I came out last year with a gift box business all around self- love and compassion. That’s what I really needed the most. I had a really tough 2020. 2020? 2019, oh my goodness. Can 2020 please be easier? But I had a really tough 2019 and I’m so grateful that I have gotten through it. The lessons that it’s taught me. I’m so grateful for my husband and I really taking stock of everything in our lives and working on ourselves separately and together and just going from strength to strength and just feeling really supported in all areas of my life. There’s just a lot of people, actually, I’m grateful for. The people and the support that I’ve received in the last year, that’s what comes to mind.

00:36:51
Gianna Lucas: That is absolutely beautiful.

00:36:54
Speaker 12: Loving this episode? Let us know. Leave us a review via Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

00:37:04
Gianna Lucas: This challenge is something we’re both going to participate in. We have some helium. We have to both consume the helium. We have to then sing a song, very famous, by Tay- Tay, Taylay Swift. Taylay Swift!

00:37:17
Jessica Holsman: Oh yeah, Taylay! Go, Taylay!

00:37:18
Gianna Lucas: Taylay! We both have to sing a song by Taylor Swift called Shake It Off. The person who wins is the person that can sing the longest with their chipmunk helium voice without laughing.

00:37:33
Jessica Holsman: I feel like I’m going to win because you can’t control yourself, but I’m glad that it’s-

00:37:37
Gianna Lucas: I think you’re a giggler. I think that-

00:37:38
Jessica Holsman: Yeah, but you’re worse.

00:37:39
Gianna Lucas: Am I?

00:37:39
Jessica Holsman: You’re definitely worse.

00:37:39
Gianna Lucas: Am I worse?

00:37:39
Jessica Holsman: Yes, you’re worse.

00:37:39
Gianna Lucas: Am I worse, guys?

00:37:39
Speaker 13: Yes.

00:37:43
Gianna Lucas: I’m worse. Okay, I’m worse. Fine. I’m worse. Might as well not even do the comp. Just going to leave. Anyway, never try this at home. Do not try this at home. We are in a very safe environment in a studio with loving people that look after us. This is something that can be quite dangerous.

00:38:00
Jessica Holsman: What? She tells me after I have said yes.

00:38:03
Gianna Lucas: It is, yeah.

00:38:03
Jessica Holsman: Is it really dangerous?

00:38:04
Gianna Lucas: No, well, Jimmy Fallon’s done it heaps of times and he’s still alive and he’s really smart and has achieved a lot. So if he can inhale helium, go Jimmy, so can we. All right. You ready?

00:38:13
Jessica Holsman: Yes.

00:38:14
Gianna Lucas: Okay, let’s do this.

00:38:15
Jessica Holsman: Oh my gosh.

00:38:16
Gianna Lucas: All right. So we both have our Shake It Off lyrics, which we basically know the song, but this is just in case we struggle because we’re trying not to laugh and whatnot. Okay?

00:38:25
Jessica Holsman: Yeah.

00:38:25
Gianna Lucas: I think we’ll be all right. We’ll be all right.

00:38:26
Jessica Holsman: I think you’re right, yeah.

00:38:28
Gianna Lucas: The second thing we need which I’m going to add in is you need to pick an accompanying instrument of your choice. So these are-

00:38:35
Jessica Holsman: Mine has bunnies on it.

00:38:37
Gianna Lucas: Yes. So this is something I had when I was growing up. It’s a state- of- the- art tambourine for those who can’t watch us because they’re listening. State- of- the-art of a tambourine for five year olds. There’s also a fake maraca, which looks like an egg. So these are your two options. Would you like to accompany yourself with a maraca or a tambourine?

00:39:01
Jessica Holsman: The one that I don’t choose, is that what you get?

00:39:03
Gianna Lucas: Yeah.

00:39:03
Jessica Holsman: Okay.

00:39:03
Gianna Lucas: So basically you need to win, so you’ve got to give me the one that’s going to make me fail.

00:39:08
Jessica Holsman: You can have the tambourine.

00:39:09
Gianna Lucas: Okay. I knew it. I knew you were going to do that.

00:39:11
Jessica Holsman: I’ll take the little egg.

00:39:12
Gianna Lucas: Okay. All right. So we’ve got the lyrics. We have our instruments because we like to be creative on the show. Now we need our helium. By the way, we have to sing at the same time, I reckon, to make it fair. Yeah?

00:39:23
Jessica Holsman: Yes. Am I allowed to do anything to try and make you laugh, like sabotage?

00:39:27
Gianna Lucas: Nah. Nah, I don’t want you to sabotage me.

00:39:28
Jessica Holsman: Damn. Okay.

00:39:29
Gianna Lucas: I mean, you’re all about being kind to people-

00:39:31
Jessica Holsman: Oh, yeah.

00:39:31
Gianna Lucas: … so that’d be totally against your brand and you’re authentic and stuff, unless you are manipulative. No, I’m joking.

00:39:37
Jessica Holsman: Guilt tripping me much?

00:39:40
Gianna Lucas: All right.

00:39:41
Jessica Holsman: Okay. Hello.

00:39:42
Gianna Lucas: Oh.

00:39:42
Jessica Holsman: Oh.

00:39:42
Gianna Lucas: I’m not laughing.

00:39:42
Jessica Holsman: I’m not.

00:39:42
Gianna Lucas: God, we haven’t started singing. We haven’t started singing yet. All right. Okay.

00:39:42
Jessica Holsman: Two seconds in.

00:39:52
Gianna Lucas: Oh wait, we’ve also got to have the tambourine. Oh my gosh. Okay, ready?

00:39:55
Jessica Holsman: Good luck.

00:39:56
Gianna Lucas: Okay, good luck. Good luck. Good luck.

00:39:57
Jessica Holsman: Okay.

00:39:58
Gianna Lucas: Hang on. Okay. So maybe we inhale then we touch our things.

00:40:02
Jessica Holsman: Then we go for it.

00:40:02
Gianna Lucas: Yeah, okay. Okay, ready.

00:40:03
Jessica Holsman: Okay. Ready?

00:40:04
Gianna Lucas: Three, two, one. ( singing).

00:40:24
Jessica Holsman: Did I mention I’m really good at singing?

00:41:00
Gianna Lucas: Oh my goodness. How do you have that much helium left over?

00:41:04
Jessica Holsman: Because I did little bits.

00:41:04
Gianna Lucas: I did everything I said I wasn’t going to do. Oh, you have been a trooper. Oh, I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe that’s why, because I sucked in the whole balloon.

00:41:12
Jessica Holsman: (inaudible) .

00:41:12
Gianna Lucas: This was so much fun.

00:41:14
Jessica Holsman: This was so fun. Oh my gosh.

00:41:16
Gianna Lucas: We’ve got three of us, three other people in the studio. Ewan, Carissa, Marija, who deserves the win?

00:41:21
Speaker 14: It’s a tough call, but I’m going to say Jess. Sorry, Gianna.

00:41:25
Gianna Lucas: That’s all right.

00:41:25
Jessica Holsman: Thank you.

00:41:25
Gianna Lucas: Jess is the winner. I think that right there just might be the one and only time you’ll ever hear me inhale helium to sing a song. Just saying. It really does crack me up listening back to it. A fantastic memory, that’s for sure. But in all seriousness, it’s important to note that inhaling helium can be quite dangerous. I know that you might be able to see it on things like Jimmy Fallon and the like, but it is important to take care of your health and to make sure you’re doing the right thing. This was a bit of fun and I hope you got to enjoy it in this week’s episode.

The Happow squad and I hope you loved this chat with Jess Holsman and took some strategies or life lessons from it. As you can see, Jess is super humble and the content she’s putting out there all the time really does empower hundreds of thousands of people including myself and the whole team. To keep up- to- date with Jess, the easiest way is to simply follow her on Instagram and subscribe to her main YouTube channel or her other channels as well. All you need to do is search, ” Study With Jess.”

Loved this episode of Power Up Life? Why not leave a quick rating and review? By doing so you’re helping us reach even more people just like yourself. Don’t forget to follow us on socials as well. Simply search, ” Happowau,” to follow us and stay in the know. Want more Happow? Well, I’ve got good news for you. Sign up to our free, yes, free, life skills platform to get access to our on-demand expert-led video masterclasses called Life Lessons. You can also find on their quizzes, blogs and more. Simply visit happow.com. This episode of Power Up Life was produced by me, Gianna Lucas, Marija Dukadinovska and Carissa Shale for the Happow Podcast Network.
Thanks for tuning into this week’s episode of Power Up Life, a Happow podcast. If you loved this episode, be a legend and leave us a quick rating and review on your fave podcast app. Dive into the show notes for all episodes on our website. Catch you next time, and remember to power up life!